19:26 pm
Hi fam! The #OWS General Assembly is starting now! Y'all can follow here & at @LibertySqGA2, @LibertySqGA3, and @LibertySqGA4 for overflow.
19:26 pm
.@PoweredByCats and Anthony will co-facilitate tonight! @wookietv will take stack, and @CMarieDaniel will keep time! #nycga #ows
19:27 pm
There are some folks w/ proposals that didn't check in; Stairs (our facilitators) are currently checking to see if anyone's here to present.
19:28 pm
Sounds like there are 2 proposals, 1 proposed reading, & potentially a proposal from Nan (again) to dissolve the Spokescouncil. #nycga #ows
19:30 pm
Cont'd: "…with us is the Tech blog: tech.nycga.net." Will be doing training Monday from 12-6 at Charlotte's Place on how to use nycga.net...
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Cont'd: …for groups, and for how to set up their own blogs on that site. Also, computer security will be first at right around noon. #nycga
19:30 pm
Now opening stack for working group reportbacks! TechOps: "We've been working on a lot of new projects; the best way to keep up…"#nycga #ows
19:31 pm
[Sorry, those got out of order due to a timeout. That last one precedes the 2 posted prior to it.] #nycga #ows
19:31 pm
Brett notes that we'll be strict on time due to a hard stop mandated by 60 Wall's 10pm closing time. #nycga #ows
19:32 pm
Minutes/Facilitation report back together: They went to last night's Bushwick GA! "Last night, we had another GA, second in 2 weeks…" #nycga
19:32 pm
Cont'd: "…it was more lk open spaces -- had skill sharing on HTML, and talked about gentrification." Dave, others from facilitation helped.
19:33 pm
.@dovidmoishe agrees. "I think it was the first time they felt they could come together and get something done." Next one: Loom, 7pm, Thurs.
19:33 pm
Anthony steps in: "GA is a public, open meeting, which means anyone with a camera can come in and film. But please let ppl know…" #nycga
19:34 pm
Cont'd: "…so that people who are uncomfortable with it can indicate that and you can avoid them." #nycga #ows
19:34 pm
Camille, Legal and Jail Support: "I made this announcement at the end of GA today; this is a damage control kind of announcement…" #nycga
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Cont'd: "We had issues this past weekend; ppl were arraigned w/ public defenders Friday and Sunday. It's something to keep in mind…"
19:35 pm
Cont'd: "…if you're planning autonomous events, please get some NLG people there. But right now there may not be one at your arraignment…"
19:35 pm
Essentially NLG is stretched thin; they had a full caseload pre-#OWS. "They weren't expecting this to be that many arrests… for this long."
19:35 pm
Daniel, Facilitation! "Today at our meeting, we discussed how now that the #SC is mostly functional, and we have a spending freeze.." #nycga
19:36 pm
Cont'd: "…we have much more time for discussion at the GA, which is great." So facilitation will be collecting questions that folks want..
19:36 pm
Cont'd: ..addressed at the GA. Facilitation will open a Google Doc and either select or pick randomly, topics for discussion. #nycga #ows
19:36 pm
"So, look for that, especially w/ working groups, and if you want to get on it and you're not in a working group, come see me." #nycga #ows
19:37 pm
Chris, from DA! "About 2 months ago, #OccupyLA and #OccupyLongBeach put out a call for a #GeneralStrike on May 1st." #nycga #ows
19:37 pm
Cont'd: "This call has now been picked up by about 25 occupations; it's gonna be huge. We've been meeting for about 3 weeks in DA and..."
19:37 pm
Cont'd: "…as a subgroup to DA. We finally consensed on language that the DA group agrees to for this action in solidarity with LA." #nycga
19:38 pm
Cont'd: "Our framework includes new terminology so that folks not behind GS maybe can get behind our call." It'll come before GA soon.
19:38 pm
Language: "MayDay 2012; #OWS stands in solidarity for calls with a day w/o the 99%, a General Strike, and more." Calling for a day of no...
19:38 pm
Cont'd: …work, no school, no shopping, no banking, etc. #nycga #ows
19:39 pm
Nan's announcement. "Newark, NJ is having a festival Feb 11-12, a pre-valentine's thing for family. Bring your wallet and cash, b/c…"
19:39 pm
Cont'd: "…we're gonna have different games and things like that." For family and to get to know each other. At #OccupyNewark. #nycga #ows
19:41 pm
Reportback from Camille about Ellis: "Ellis had an out-of-state warrant; we had bail money for him." Is "solid #OWS", everyone knows him.
19:41 pm
"Basically, he was put on $2k bail, but b/c the DA in PA wants him extradited back to PA for the warrant he had there, which if he had..."
19:42 pm
Cont'd: "…the proper representation for his arraignment," it wouldn't have been the case. "We're just hoping for the best for him; I'm.."
19:42 pm
Cont'd: "…really fucked up about this, sorry to use that language." #nycga #ows
19:43 pm
Facilitation lets us know we're meeting 2pm Saturday at 60 Wall to talk about how to get spaces for Spokescouncil and avoid cancellations.
19:44 pm
Sage is bringing forward an emergency proposal in response to the fact that Housing is out of Metrocards already for the night. #nycga #ows
19:44 pm
Sage: "Facilitation was supposed to tell you it's up to you to decide whether or not this is an emergency proposal; I'm not here to.."#nycga
19:45 pm
Cont'd: "…dominate your time; it's up to you." Notes that Metrocards should be available during GA and Spokescouncil, at meetings. #nycga
19:45 pm
"Today, I showed up at 7pm for the GA, and the Metrocards were already handed out. What this means to me is that somebody needs…" #nycga
19:45 pm
Cont'd: "…to explain what they were thinking, and why they decided to hand out Metrocards at 6pm, before the GA starts, and I want.." #nycga
19:46 pm
Cont'd: "…their Metrocard! Personally! B/c I'm not superman; I'm not trying to rescue anyone else; I can barely take care of myself on…"
19:46 pm
Cont'd: "…a daily basis." "I rely on that Metrocard; I have to risk my freedom 2-4 times a day all week just to get here" without one.#nycga
19:47 pm
"It's against my religion to cure symptoms; I want to go after causes." Refused someone else's card; wants the distributor's. #nycga #ows
19:48 pm
First CQ: "I have $13 in my wallet, and now I have $3, b/c I wasn't able to get my metro card." Wants to see improvement too. #nycga #ows
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Sage: "Also, Metrocards on Tuesday were unavailable due to a lack of accountability w/ Accounting. Ppl went to get $ from…" #nycga #ows
19:48 pm
Cont'd: "…Accounting, and they didn't have money for the metro card team." Brett notes we need to decide whether this... #nycga #ows
19:49 pm
…qualifies as an emergency proposal. Notes that since Sage doesn't specifically have a proposal, we could try forming one together. #nycga
19:49 pm
Stairs: "If you want to have this conversation now, twinkle up; if you don't, twinkle down." Also, you can mid-twinkle if you're not sure.
19:50 pm
Stairs: "That was more positive than not; not everyone participated." Notes that since there are 2 fewer agenda items than intended...
19:50 pm
…we should probably go for it. Brett asks if anyone has any suggests for some sort of proposal to address this issue. #nycga #ows
19:50 pm
Anthony suggests we break into small breakouts for 5 minutes… but Sean has a PoI: "I talked to Cynthia; she was doing someone a favor..."
19:51 pm
Cont'd:"…they gave out 80 Metrocards yesterday, there were none Tuesday, and 20 today." They still have 20, but feels we may need more.
19:51 pm
Stairs: "The Metrocards are for the inner workings of the movement, so it needs to be taken to Spokescouncil." Sean notes GA passed… #nycga
19:52 pm
Cont'd: …the spending freeze, so if we need to make an exception for Metrocards, it needs to happen here at GA. #nycga #ows
19:53 pm
We temp check the discussion again: it's mixed still. Someone asks if we can even solve this w/o the Housing / point people present. #nycga
19:54 pm
Someone talked to Jeff and he says Cynthia had all the cards, so there actually aren't anymore cards. #nycga #ows
19:54 pm
Sage: "There's an inherent problem: b/c we're so anti-hierarchy, there's no built-in custom for training the person that replaces you…"
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Cont'd: "…so that didn't happen, so the person who handed them out had no idea to hold onto them until GA." #nycga #ows
19:55 pm
Stairs suggests we put a hold on it and wait for Jeff to get here, and we'll talk to him on the side and see what can be done. #nycga #ows
19:56 pm
So, we'll move onto the Accountability proposal from Town Planning. Sean is passing it out. #nycga #ows
20:00 pm
OK, here's the Accountability proposal: http://t.co/f0borj9x #nycga #ows
20:01 pm
Sean notes that it starts with verbatim copies of the Principles of Solidarity and the Statement of Autonomy, and that the rest is wordy.
20:06 pm
Sean is reading the proposal now. It's pretty long; the gist is to empower the GA to "sever ties" w/ those who don't follow the Principles..
20:07 pm
Cont'd: …of Solidarity, the Statement of Autonomy, or other community agreements. It says folks who don't exclude themselves… #nycga #ows
20:07 pm
Cont'd: …by essentially putting themselves outside the definition of #OWS if they don't act in a way consistent w/ agreements. #nycga #ows
20:12 pm
OK, we're now beginning the consensus process, starting with hearing clarifying questions. #nycga #ows
20:13 pm
CQ: "This seems like a preamble; not a proposal - could be boiled down to a single bulletpoint, that the GA can sever contact…" #nycga #ows
20:13 pm
Cont'd: "…with an individual" who moves outside of our principles. "Can this be one solid paragraph/bulletpoint we can consense on?" #nycga
20:15 pm
Sean answers he warned us it was a bit long, but feels like the explanation, particularly the benefits to be denied to an individual..#nycga
20:15 pm
Cont'd: ..is important. But he summarizes, essentially says the revocation of benefits is the meat of the proposal. #nycga #ows
20:15 pm
Razor's CQ: "I'd like to know the names of the ppl that wrote this." A: "Myself [Sean] and Robert from Town Planning." #nycga #ows
20:16 pm
Razor: "This is what a business does when they're locking down property rights. Clearly a lawyer had input on this somewhere.." #nycga #ows
20:16 pm
Sean says no, neither of them are lawyers. But Razor says "this is scary shit, and I do not understand this in an inclusive movement."#nycga
20:17 pm
Sean says it was developed just within Town Planning. Razor says his humorous analogy, "Johnny the Homocidal Protester", is triggering.
20:17 pm
Razor: "I don't find that remotely funny; maybe it's funny if you haven't been through hell." Says there's no place for this in safe space.
20:19 pm
Nan's CQ: "This is a movement for everybody," says Sean's writing is exclusive. "The government excludes the 99%; if…" #nycga #ows
20:19 pm
Cont'd: "…you're saying you're trying to exclude, that's some scary shit." Nan says this is particularly alarming b/c a black male was..
20:20 pm
Cont'd: …excluded from Spokescouncil after a white man didn't give him a metro card and he put his hands on him. [Not what happened. -Ed.]
20:20 pm
Nan also accuses Sean of stalking her online. "How will you put this forward without racism?" #nycga #ows
20:20 pm
Sean notes that the GA would have to consense on exclusion, and if that could happen "it's probably not racist." #nycga #ows
20:21 pm
Nan: "People of color, they're bringing a process, and I think you're taking away that process." Safer Spaces' proposal, she means. #nycga
20:21 pm
Proposer again chooses to not respond. CQ: "I hear those concerns, but -- like he said, this is kind of a preamble. I'm not sure how this.."
20:21 pm
Cont'd: "…could be practical. If someone does something detrimental to the movement, a necessary fact for him to be excluded, it would.."
20:22 pm
Cont'd: "…have to be, like, pre-meditated damage to the movement itself." Notes emotion rises up and shit happens. #nycga #ows
20:22 pm
Cont'd: "So, nobody is really without recourses to come back -- cut off -- there shouldn't be something to cut off, can't come back…" #nycga
20:22 pm
Cont'd: "…unless it's serious." Sean notes it would definitely only happen in serious cases -- serious or repetitive. #nycga #ows
20:23 pm
Brett notes we've expired our original time and an additional 10 minutes consented to earlier; we'll temp check now to see.. #nycga #ows
20:23 pm
Cont'd: …if GA wants to continue, "otherwise the proposal will be tabled for further development and can come back." #nycga #ows
20:23 pm
Stairs says the temp check is positive; continuing on with stack. CQ: "On the last bulletpoint you mentioned, I'm wondering practically…"
20:24 pm
Cont'd: "…how someone can lose the ability to say they're part of #OWS." Sean notes that when Media had this issue, they made a public..
20:24 pm
Cont'd: …statement. So, we can disavow that person. That's about it. #nycga #ows
20:25 pm
Someone suggests that "Black Bloc" tactics might be a good example to work with. Lots of down twinkles, and he seems hesitant. #nycga #ows
20:26 pm
He clarifies: "Well, you just gave us this sheet on where to draw the line, and I think a good solid example would be Black Bloc tactics."
20:27 pm
I think a lot of ppl want to set him straight, as he's misusing the term, but Stairs are trying to steeeer us back to this proposal. #nycga
20:28 pm
Someone asks what experience Town Planning has that gives them credibility on this proposal. Sean notes that personally, he experienced...
20:28 pm
Cont'd: …abuse in his home growing up, and that he was the coordinator for a LARP. Questioner wants to know what his "Town Planning"…#nycga
20:29 pm
Cont'd: …experience is. "If he doesn't have Town Planning experience, why is he on Town Planning for the movement?" #nycga #ows
20:30 pm
Sumumba asks him what this has to do with park agreements; Sean notes this extends more broadly and reasserts applicability. #nycga #ows
20:31 pm
.@dovidmoishe: "I understand this proposal isn't about excluding ppl, but excluding behaviors that are not consistent with our…" #nycga
20:31 pm
Cont'd: "…principles as a movement, and when those behaviors undermine our process and are destroying the mvmnt, those behaviors.." #nycga
20:31 pm
Cont'd: "…are what's targeted, not the invididual." Feels also there should be a road back for anyone excluded. #nycga #ows
20:32 pm
Stairs: "More a stment of support; a little out of process." That's it for clarifying ?s, now stacking up concerns/friendly amendments.
20:32 pm
Concern: "I'm concerned about the community agreement and code of conduct being forthcoming," "if we're going to be.." #nycga #ows
20:32 pm
Cont'd: "…talking about behaviors we should be specific about what behaviors we do and do not accept." #nycga #ows
20:33 pm
A: "Safer Spaces are working on the proposals; it's been to Spokescouncil and is being revised." Concerner just wants to make sure… #nycga
20:33 pm
Cont'd: ..the proposal remains linked to specific behaviors. Sean says that's the idea. #nycga #ows
20:34 pm
C: "You talked about a restorative justice process in the works, this is a friendly amendment, would you be willing to hold off…" #nycga
20:34 pm
Cont'd: "…until that process is completed?" Sean asks to temp check the GA about waiting until grievance process exists. #nycga #ows
20:35 pm
Both Stairs and proposer agree the temperature check looks positive; but Sean wants to finish stack on concerns/FAs. 4 more? #nycga #ows
20:35 pm
Stairs wants to have ppl talk to Sean outside of the main process, so that someone from DC can make their proposal before leaving. #nycga
20:36 pm
.@OccupyDC! "Sorry, we need to be on an #interoccupy call tonight at 9pm!" Two folks from #ODC in Freedom Plaza. #nycga #ows
20:36 pm
Cont'd: "We didn't bring copies of the proposal, but it was posted, and it came out of the #OWS Direct Action group." #nycga #ows
20:36 pm
Cont'd: "We brought it to our GA and they approved it. It's called "NowDC", the National Occupation of Washington DC. #nycga #ows
20:36 pm
Cont'd: "We're asking occupiers around the country to come to DC and also to join in the planning." #nycga #ows
20:37 pm
First week, they'll set up camp. Second week, occupiers will share skills and experiences and gain organizing skills. #nycga #ows
20:37 pm
Also, they'll work on organizing structures outside of current structures: alternative economies, sustainable food networks, etc.#nycga #ows
20:37 pm
"The subtitle for this is Occupy Power; it's Occupying the center of power but also showing our power." Asking if NYC is in #solidarity.
20:38 pm
The website is NowDC.org; working groups are there and minutes are posted on website, and every Thurs at 9pm they have their org call.
20:38 pm
"We started collecting solidarity statements last Sunday; there are 10 so far." It's a slow process. "Since we have 10, that makes.." #nycga
20:38 pm
Cont'd: "…it a national #Occupy action under #Interoccupy rules; we really want #OWS to be a part of that." #nycga #ows
20:39 pm
CQ: "You discussed setting up camps for this: how are the recent actions by police in DC affecting this?" #nycga #ows
20:39 pm
A: "So far, both camps are still open; it's very strange rules in DC. First, on the Federal Parks, you're allowed to have a 24-hour vigil.."
20:39 pm
Cont'd: "…you're allowed to have tents, just not to sleep." "We deeply meditate." Also, you can sleep on streets in DC legally. #nycga #ows
20:39 pm
"So, that's part of the #Occupy challenge, and we'll fight it as we fight it." #nycga #ows
20:40 pm
CQ: "Why March and not April?" A: "We wanted to start it shortly after spring began, and we didn't know Congress wouldn't return…" #nycga
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Cont'd "…until the 16th. But we thought about our movement and how it's really us that holds the power, so maybe it's not such a bad thing."
20:40 pm
"Plus Congress not being in town means the media has nothing to do but cover us!" #nycga #ows
20:41 pm
CQ was about Congress. "In our view, it doesn't matter who you put into Congress or the White House right now- system doesn't work." #nycga
20:41 pm
Notes that the call they're having at 9pm is about how to shift power nonviolently. #nycga #ows
20:42 pm
Next, Concerns. Drew: "So, is there any specific help that you need from #OWS to put on the record, just so we're aware of it & can assist?"
20:42 pm
A: They want folks to join working groups, especially DA, and to help with website and social media, Twitter, etc. #nycga #ows
20:42 pm
A cont'd: "We hope you'll join and help to shape it." Don't expect everyone to come down for whole month. Also, you can submit workshops...
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Cont'd: …for the social forum. Everything from learned lessons, to technical stuff, livestream. "We want to build the movement's strength..
20:43 pm
Cont'd: "…through this social forum." They want to be as flexible and useful as they possibly can. #nycga #ows
20:43 pm
C: "My concern is, a lot of groups come and say, twinkle on my x. And I don't know what our actual support is by twinkling up and down..."
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Cont'd: "…or blocking it, b/c I'm an autonomous person, and if I support it, I'm going to support it. Even if it gets blocked…" #nycga
20:44 pm
Cont'd: "So, that's my concern with basically all proposals of this type." #nycga #ows
20:44 pm
A: "We've made that pt; whether you consense to join or not, we certainly invite everyone to coming." "That's also why we like…" #nycga
20:44 pm
Cont'd: "…the word #solidarity better than endorsement." "We just want to get as many people involved as we can." #nycga #ows
20:45 pm
Sean, the CQ, responds- #solidarity is mutual having each others' backs, not sure it's different from endorsement or what GA can promise.
20:46 pm
Nan's C is that someone else came to get solidarity and was turned down. "Occupy The Road"? "I'm concerned, b/c what.." #nycga #ows
20:46 pm
Cont'd: "..are we telling those people?" Says it's egocentric. "If we say we're the 99% and we're everybody," we have to stand up w/ them.
20:47 pm
OK, that's it for Concerns. Any friendly amendments? No! Temperature check to ask how we're feeling… very, very good. Proposers will restate
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"We're seeking your solidarity for a National Occupation of Washington DC, beginning in March and going through April." #nycga #ows
20:48 pm
First, Stairs will ask for standasides, and then blocks. Anthony reminds us that blocks indicate serious moral, ethical, or safety concerns.
20:50 pm
Carrie's Standaside: she doesn't feel comfortable endorsing an occupation that we may not have much say into. #nycga #ows
20:50 pm
Shawn also stood aside for reasons indicated earlier. There's a third stand aside… "are there any blocks?" No! Consensus! #nycga #ows
20:51 pm
OK, so now Jeff from Housing will come up and explain Metrocards issue. "I want to state again, the GA policy- 120 Metrocards a week..."
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Cont'd: "…this week, we did not receive the $ on time; Accounting had other priorities Tuesday." Gave away 80 last night, should be 40...
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Cont'd: "I'm concerned because 40 should have been enough." Ppl who stepped up didn't get trained, so maybe didn't follow procedure. #nycga
20:52 pm
Cont'd: "At least one of the ppl who signed up for this evening I've seen take Metrocards for personal use." "If you were here 7, 7:30.."
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Cont'd: "…and you did not get a Metrocard, there's a problem." Wants to make sure that there is accountability, account for all forms.#nycga
20:53 pm
Jeff doesn't think we need to buy more, thinks we need to get accountability for cards we already bought. #nycga #ows
20:53 pm
Nan asks "so do we not get Metrocards, or what?" Jeff says he hopes we find them and need to find them first before he can tell us. #nycga
20:55 pm
Next proposal! It's from Aaron. It's not a proposal, "this is something I read in my life that came back to me." I'll film this for y'all...
21:03 pm
Aaron just read this Emma Goldman excerpt here: http://t.co/bXxc5edL #nycga #ows
21:04 pm
We've opened the floor to responses. Razor notes the irony of quoting Emma Goldman, who was violent after being left out of… #nycga #ows
21:04 pm
Cont'd: …planning the revolution, and then at the same time consider proposals to exclude people. "It's bullshit," Razor says. #nycga #ows
21:05 pm
I'll post the video of that. Anthony: "We've completed our agenda! Fuck Monsanto!" Next, Announcements. #nycga #ows
21:06 pm
First announcement: "Hi! I'm working on a website called "Occupy Stories", the vision is to archive and amplify first-hand experiences.."
21:06 pm
Cont'd: "…with #OWS, not just here but all over the country." Oakland, Miami; "I think we all have a lot of experiences here that are.."
21:07 pm
Cont'd: "…worth keeping in 1 place." OccupiedStories.com; "If you have something you've already written or want to write, we'll publish it."
21:07 pm
Next, Patrick: "Just an update from the Vision and Goals team; we're bringing the latest version of the statement Feb 14th." "We made.."
21:07 pm
Cont'd: "…some changes, we tried to integrate the things that we heard." Will have a link on site so you can find it easily. #nycga #ows
21:08 pm
Sumumba thanks us for coming out, and the Outreach group is "now going to be in East Flatbush Saturday to help them start a GA!" #nycga #ows
21:08 pm
Cont'd: "It can't be a revolution if it's just us down here at Wall Street." Meet at 6:30 Mon, 60 Wall. Want to liberate NYC, America!#nycga
21:09 pm
Sean notes that the Grievance Process-in-process will be discussed at 6:30 pm tomorrow night at the Quaker Society in Brooklyn. #nycga #ows
21:09 pm
Maria, from OccupyZurich in Switzerland! "It was very nice to attend an #NYCGA; I have plenty of questions, so if you want to meet after.."
21:09 pm
Cont'd: "…come to me." Cool! Welcome! #nycga #ows
21:10 pm
Someone named "Naut"? Wants to start an "OccupyVoters" group to target issues in NYC starting w/ City Council, to phone/pressure ppl. #nycga
21:12 pm
No details yet, but he'll come back to GA when he has them. @raviahmad from Outreach notes they'll have orientation Saturday, 12pm, 60 Wall.
21:12 pm
Ravi: "If you want to just talk to new people, please feel free." They hang out and help plug people into stuff to do w/ #OWS! #nycga #ows
21:13 pm
Anthony: "Ellis' court date is tomorrow morning; please show up at Court in Brooklyn at Supreme Court, 9am, 3rd floor." #nycga #ows
21:13 pm
Brett thanks us for our patience. "If you have any feedback for either of us, we'd be happy to hear it! Thank you!" #nycga #ows
21:13 pm
OK everyone! I'll upload that video ASAP, otherwise that's it for the GA! Thanks for following along everyone! #nycga #ows
21:14 pm
Quick announcement frm the @LibertySqGA team- in coalition w/ OWSNYC & other streamers/citizen journos, we've been working on something new!
21:15 pm
More on that soon. It's gonna be great. [Questions, concerns, comments on tonight's GA, hit me up @diceytroop! Thanks fam! -Ed.] #nycga #ows