19:24 pm
Hi fam! We're currently awaiting a livestream so we can remotely live tweet the GA. The #occuplague has hit us hard today. #nycga #ows
19:26 pm
If anyone's physically at the GA & wants to paraphrase, that'd be great. This marks the 1st time since #O11 tht @LibertySqGA isn't onsite :(
19:29 pm
RT @j_z_nelson: 15 people in the GA tonight. One proposal and an emergency proposal.
19:41 pm
OK, we're livetweeting from @occupymusician's livestream: www.livestream.com/occupello! Here we go… #nycga #ows
19:48 pm
"Mic check! The General Assembly will resume right now!" This follows a break taken to move the GA to 60 Wall. Ready to go… #nycga #ows
19:51 pm
First proposer: "I'm proposing to have #OWS house parties," a la Obama campaign "house parties". #nycga #ows
19:54 pm
The idea is to give people a way to gather, share skills, share action ideas, and maybe raise money. #nycga #ows
19:55 pm
Proposer notes that if you can connect small actions (recycling, turning off lights) to idea of "occupying wall street", that'd be great.
19:55 pm
Nan's CQ: "Will this cost money?" Also asks if there'll be alcohol. Answer: No, and it depends on the host. #nycga #ows
19:56 pm
Zack's CQ: "I feel this is vague; I'm not sure what you're proposing or asking for." No $, no date? But he supports having parties. #nycga
19:57 pm
PoP: "This doesn't sound like a proposal; it sounds like an announcement." A: "I'm talking about #OWS setting a date and being behind it."
19:58 pm
Next questioner suggests this should be discussed in a breakout by DA, then brought to GA, making it "a lot more coordinated." #nycga #ows
19:59 pm
Proposer: "That'd be great!" Says she had this idea & was told to make a proposal, but she's now learning abt how to work w/ existing grps.
20:00 pm
OK, so she'll table the proposal. There's an emergency proposal, maybe. Yoni clarifies that means "it's an external circumstance you…"
20:00 pm
Cont'd: "…couldn't have known earlier." We'll hear the proposal, and then we'll temp check whether it qualifies as an emergency. #nycga #ows
20:02 pm
Proposal, by Shazz: "I sent this to Facilitation on Friday; they didn't put it on the site, asking for more info." #nycga #ows
20:04 pm
Cont'd: "I didn't know they were going to not respond to it or put it up here." The proposal is to give him permission to raise money…
20:04 pm
Cont'd: …for him to attend the World Economic Forum in Switzerland. It's coming up soon, so that's why he says it's an emergency. #nycga
20:08 pm
So, we're now temp-checking whether we're interested in hearing the proposal… we are, so we'll hear the rest of it and move to consensus.
20:09 pm
Shazz's proposal is for us to label him an "official delegate" of #OWS so that he can raise money to go rep #Occupy at WEF in Davos. #nycga
20:11 pm
CQ: "Sounds like you're raising money for yourself to go -- you mentioned other #OWS people going. Will you help" them raise $ too? #nycga
20:13 pm
A: "That's a good question!" He's into it. CQ: "Will you bring an agenda with you?" Shazz would love to send one through the #NYCGA. #OWS
20:15 pm
Concern: "I love the idea of engaging w/ Davos," but thinks it's too late to handle logistics and vision. Suggests we do something here...
20:15 pm
Cont'd: …and then livestream it to participate. Shazz' A: "I hope you all do something here! But I have a personal reason for wanting…"
20:16 pm
Cont'd: "…to go to Europe," so he'll try to do that regardless. Next CQ: "Are you willing to go w/ other people?" A: "Yes, it depends on.."
20:16 pm
Cont'd: "…how much we raise." Yuri's CQ: "You want to leave on the 24th; that gives you 2 days' time to raise funds and purchase ticket."
20:17 pm
CQ: "Do you have a copy of your written proposal?" A: Yes, it was emailed to @OWSFacilitation, and it's on his own site. #nycga #ows
20:20 pm
OK, Concerns: "If you do raise, say, $15k, who else will be going?" Shazz suggests we figure it out tomorrow, as long as he gets… #nycga
20:20 pm
Cont'd: …to be one of them. "I'm not too worried about the money; I suggest tomorrow at 10am we discuss these details." #nycga #ows
20:21 pm
Next, what happens if he raises less than the money he needs to go? "Does that go to you, or to the general fund?" A: The latter… #nycga
20:21 pm
Cont'd: …as "long as you make me the delegate. If not, that money's going to boots or whatever else I need." #nycga #ows
20:26 pm
Nan's FA: "Let's put any money you raise if you don't raise enough into a fund for working groups, not the GA or Spokescouncil." #nycga
20:26 pm
Shazz temp checks it. Very mixed, and many point out "there is no fund for working groups," aside from the GA. #nycga #ows
20:27 pm
Shazz notes that spending freeze may cause more proposals for endorsement of autonomous actions like this one. #nycga #ows
20:27 pm
Concern: "If we don't endorse you, will you represent us anyway?" A: "No, I'll act at my discretion." The top 2600 ppl in world'll be there.
20:27 pm
Cont'd: "And they'll be talking about poverty, and the protests worldwide." Would be nice to chime in as #OWS. #nycga
20:28 pm
Jeff's concern: "I hope you go, have a presence, raise a banner." But he questions the idea of us choosing someone to "represent" us. #nycga
20:35 pm
OK, sorry, stream was down, but they're restating. "If you agree to this, #Occupy will help others fundraise, tomorrow we'll work out…"
20:35 pm
Cont'd: "…details about how to coordinate this and get the press release out by noon tomorrow." Last ? is what to do if money… #nycga #ows
20:35 pm
Cont'd: …can't be raised. Shazz decides, "Let it go to the general fund." Yoni, facilitating, asks if we're ready for consensus. #nycga #ows
20:36 pm
OK, there are 2 blocks. Nan's is, "we're spending money like crazy, that's one of the reasons we have the spending freeze." #nycga #ows
20:37 pm
Cont'd: "We don't know how long this $ will be frozen, and we have a problem with housing" getting money. She says it's ethical because...
20:37 pm
Cont'd: …she has a concern that Accounting are evil thieves and, secondarily, that we may stop paying for housing and leave ppl… #nycga
20:38 pm
Cont'd: …without someplace to go. Anthony notes that Metrocard, Housing, Kitchen, aren't affected by spending freeze. #nycga #ows
20:39 pm
Nan wants the FA still which would give any extra money to a "fund" for working groups. #nycga #ows
20:39 pm
Nan's block stands. Elizabeth's block: "I have serious reservations about" "how you'd represent #OWS." Strong reservations. #nycga #ows
20:40 pm
Shazz offers to give her a 1 minute background of what he's done in the movement, and notes that he handled the #OccupyFarms $. #nycga
20:41 pm
Elizabeth and others clarify that that doesn't affect her concern about him being a representative voice. Moving to modified consensus.
20:44 pm
OK, counting those against: 9. Stairs: "We have not reached modified consensus." Shazz: "Tomorrow, we'll meet here at 60 Wall…" #nycga #ows
20:44 pm
Cont'd: "…for the 'unofficial' trip to Switzerland." 10:30. "Entirely at my discretion how [independently-raised money] is dispensed now."
20:45 pm
Announcements! Someone went to DC, and found that both occupations are still active, if we want to be in an occupied park. #nycga #ows
20:47 pm
Nan: "I had a wonderful day today. Woohoo!" They're indy fundraising too; going to try to start dispensing funds to WGs…. #nycga #ows
20:48 pm
Next, someone: "One place we haven't gotten to is the prisons." Feels we'll get revolutionary intellectuals from "prisons, not colleges."
20:49 pm
Someone notes that facilitation has been having a hard time getting proposals submitted up on the website, wants to talk abt it. #nycga #ows
20:51 pm
Someone asks, "is there anything on the table to help projects" get money? "If it's not, we need to do that." #nycga #ows
20:52 pm
OK, that's it for tonight's GA! A little more on the prison stuff: "I got a bunch of postcards printed up w/ some of my comrades, b/c…"
20:52 pm
Cont'd: "…I think #OWS has reached many parts of society, but not prisons." First prison GA recently. they're doing "Occupy The Yard,"...
20:53 pm
Cont'd: The postcard is basically a pic of Attica rebellion & info abt how to do GAs, encouraging them to have 'em during normal yard time.
20:53 pm
(That's a project of the Class War working group, see them on nycga.net for more details.) Awesome! #nycga #ows
20:54 pm
Thanks fam, sorry about the 2ndhand tweeting tonite; if you have any miracle cures for noroviruses, hit me up at @diceytroop. <3 #nycga #ows