16:03 pm
RT @OWS_Tactical: We need all our DAWGs at GA tonight to hear the proposal about BAIL!!! To keep the actions coming, we need y'all to ha ...
18:56 pm
Welcome everyone! The General Assembly begins soon. Huge budget proposals are on the table tonight. Stick around! #ows #nycga
19:23 pm
Sully, Stephano will be facilitating tonight with Liz on stack. #ows #nycga
19:26 pm
We're about to start the GA! Stay tuned here and at @LibertySqGA2 @LibertySqGA3 + @LibertySqGA4! {Also peep @shawncarrie for editorial :}
19:27 pm
Stairs: there are 6 proposals tonight. We expect tonights GA to be very long this evening. #ows #nycga
19:27 pm
(Report backs begin) #ows #nycga
19:27 pm
@owsnyclive ( @TesselizaTC ) is Livestreaming the GA tonight! Check out www.Livestream.com/owsnyc for video! #OWS #NYCGA
19:28 pm
StrongWomen: My WG are working on amendments & getting legal involved. If u violate law, we will take u to court. #ows #nycga
19:29 pm
First on stack for WG reportbacks: Nan: Anyone who puts slander online, I'm gonna take you to court. REAL court. {yikes!} #OWS #nycga
19:30 pm
Comfort: We are looking for a NY residence. Also, please do not try and slander anyone. #ows #nycga
19:30 pm
WG rptback: Comfort: give us CLEAN clothes! You're my brothers & sisters, we love you as you love us! #OWS #NYCGA
19:31 pm
Media (livestream): We've streamed alot of things & one thing we noticed a decline in participation. Come out! #ows #nycga
19:31 pm
Lorenzo: Livestream: we're streaming all over the place! Egypt actions, union actions.. But there's not enuf people coming to actions! Love!
19:33 pm
Stairs: 1st we're going to go over the OccupyOakland proposal and the Bail budget proposal. #ows #nycga
19:34 pm
@Korgasm_ Liberty Square park
19:36 pm
First on the agenda: @OccupyOakland! Hella #solidarity at Liberty Plaza! #OO #OccupyOakland #OWS
19:36 pm
OO: Since Oct 10th, Oakland has been at the forefront of the movement. #ows #nycga
19:37 pm
OO: When tear gas & flash grenades were sent into the crowd, OccupyOakland acted swiftly and powerfully. #ows #nycga
19:37 pm
"Hello #OccupyWallStreet!" Stephan from @OccupyOakland is reading a history of #OO's kickass actions. #OWS #Solidarity #nycga
19:38 pm
OO: Within a week, a massive general strike was organized that culminated in 30K ppl marching on the Port of Oakland. #ows #nycga
19:38 pm
"#D12 proved to the world that the #occupy movement is still alive and kicking!" -Stepan from @OccupyOakland #OO+#OWS #Solidarity @ #nycga
19:39 pm
OO: We shut the port down. (Met with applause and cheers) #ows #nycga
19:40 pm
"To make this action a success, to reimburse costs, and carry out the #portShutdown, @OccupyOakland is requesting $20,000 from #OWS #nycga
19:40 pm
OO: Next, we want a direct action against EGT grain shipment. #ows #nycga
19:41 pm
OO: To make this successful, we ask for $20,000 from Occupy Wall Street. #ows #nycga
19:41 pm
"Hey everybody, I'm Chris from #OWS DA! Today, we unanimously consented to fully support @OccupyOakland's proposal! Much #solidarity to #OO
19:41 pm
Stairs: Ok. Stack is now open for clarifying questions. #ows #nycga
19:43 pm
Stack: This is very nice. But id like to see receipt for these actions bc we are running low on funds. #ows #nycga
19:44 pm
OO: Our accounting is very meticulous and those receipts are available upon request. #ows #nycga
19:44 pm
1st on stack for CQs is Nan-"I'm glad DA supports this, but you didn't rly do your job on #D17..." Where are your receipts?#ows #nycga
19:45 pm
OO: Everything is accounted for to the dime. #ows #nycga
19:46 pm
Stack: I cried during your activities. But now im going to be a grinch tonight. I want to know what efforts u have made... #ows #nycga
19:46 pm
Stack:..to collect support from the Bay Area. #ows #nycga
19:46 pm
next on stack:Susan:"I cried during your actions at #PortShutdown - but i'm gonna be a grinch tonight. Have you done fundraising?" #nycga
19:47 pm
OO: Despite our poverty, we have helped other occupations. For example, we passed a hat and collected.. #ows #nycga
19:47 pm
Lots of PoP's as Nan goes off topic-proposers are answering:"We'll give you receipts!"PoI:@OWSAccounting: No reciepts=no money!" #nycga #ows
19:47 pm
OO: ..$500 which we sent to you guys. To fundraise we do what we can - online and offline. #ows #nycga
19:48 pm
Proposers:"We are about action, not fundraising!" #ows #oo #Solidarity
19:48 pm
OO: but OccupyOakland is about action, not fundraising (the assembly applauds and cheers) #ows #nycga
19:49 pm
Stack: Ive looked over your budget, but see nothing on bail. So, id like to make an FA to add $5k #ows #nycga
19:50 pm
Chris from DA: "We at #OWS get most of the money, but most ppl believe that money is to build the national movement.Spread the love!" #nycga
19:50 pm
PoI: (applause & cheers) We're still on clarifying questions, but save that for later. #ows #nycga
19:51 pm
Stairs: we've reached our 15min. Temp check on extension (uptwinkles, we continue). #ows #nycga
19:52 pm
CQ:"Did DA really unanimously consense to support this proposal?" Many in crowd: "Yes!!!" #ows #nycga
19:53 pm
CQ:@LiborVonSchonau:"Why is $ going to Seattle/Portland thru #OO, and not straight from #OWS to @OccupyPdx? #nycga #ows
19:54 pm
Porposers:"We are streamlining the process. #OccupyOakland is the coordinating body, now we just need to decide who does what. #ows #nycga
19:55 pm
Stairs: Stack is now open for concerns. #ows #nycga
19:56 pm
CQ:"Is #ows DA gonna do an action in #solidarity?" Major uptwinkles. "Yes we are!" {see @OWS_Tactical for updates} #ows #nycga
19:57 pm
Stack: Money should never be the question. If NY has the money, donate it. #ows #nycga
19:57 pm
CQ:"I think other occupations should get more money..." People agree, but Stairs PoP's them."Save it for FA's!" Lots of #PoA's #ows #nycga
19:57 pm
Now moving on to concerns! @jdegroot:"Appreciate you guys bringing a much more clean and neat proposal this time! Thank you! #ows #nycga
19:58 pm
Stack: I just want to say there are way more ppl here today and glad this proposal is much more clear. #ows #nycga
19:58 pm
Concern:Jeff:"I like actions-I am concerned w proposals requesting large amts of$-#nycga should use discretion about who/where we spend$ on"
19:58 pm
Stack: I like action. I like marches. But i believe there is a large responsibility on this GA to decide how we spend money #ows #nycga
19:59 pm
Jeff:"The rate at which we're spending, we'll soon be out of money.But maybe this is the right way to run out of money!" #ows #nycga
19:59 pm
Stack: If we continue spending money this way, we'll lose it all. But, if we are, maybe this is the best way to lose our $ #ows #nycga
20:00 pm
(Everyone applauds) #ows #nycga
20:00 pm
@shawncarrie:"My concern is very serious! If this proposal doesn't pass, I'll be HELLA pissed!" @OccupyOakland #ows #nycga #oo #solidarity
20:01 pm
Stack: My understanding is that OO has never consensed on nonviolence. So, how can this be addressed? #ows #nycga
20:02 pm
PoI: occupy wall street has also never officially consensed on nonviolence. #ows #nycga
20:03 pm
Stack: Hey guys. Guess what. We should pass this bc one day, we might need $ and OO will help us #ows #nycga
20:04 pm
PoI: Our principles of soidarity does state we believe in nonviolent, civil disobedient actions. This is a living document. #ows #nycga
20:04 pm
Jerry:"If we help out @OccupyOakland, they're gonna come back and save our ass someday!" #ows #nycga
20:04 pm
Jerry:"The only social movement that can succeed is one that is decentralized!" #ows #nycga
20:04 pm
@carriem213:"I'm concerned that @OccupyOakland has never officially consensed on a strict principle of nonviolence..." #ows #nycga
20:05 pm
Stack: Im sorry but im from accounting and we need to be precise. The IRS, if we're not accurate, will come after us. #ows #nycga
20:06 pm
Someone PoI's @carriem213:"Direct Action Working Group operates on official policy of nonviolence!+we use diversity of tactics" #ows #nycga
20:06 pm
OO: We will not survive if we do not share resources. Many funds coming in to ows are donations made to the entire mvmnt.. #ows #nycga
20:06 pm
Proposers:"Just to let you know, the Longview action is for the whole movement! It's gonna use funds donated to the entire movement!"#nycga
20:06 pm
OO: not just occupy ny. #ows #nycga
20:07 pm
Stack: Ppl who are not in accounting should not make announcements they have no idea about. #ows #nycga
20:07 pm
Nan (Concern):"Ppl who are not in @OWSAccounting should not make announcements about stuff they do not know about. #ows #nycga
20:08 pm
Stack: but as accounting shows, we are running out of money. I support the action, but will block until i see receipts #ows #nycga
20:09 pm
Stairs: I see several points of process. #ows #nycga
20:09 pm
Nan: (con't) I'm gonna block you until I see receipts. I always turn in my receipts! *yelling*... #ows #nycga
20:10 pm
(Side convos take over, stairs mic checks. Regains control of process).
20:10 pm
Someone PoI's Nan: "Susan IS part of @OWSAccounting, so check your facts, Nan." #ows #nycga
20:10 pm
OO: I want to say we're requesting $20k and we wont receive it until ows accounting gets our receipts. #ows #nycga
20:12 pm
(Tempcheck for extra 15 min for upcoming Friendly Amendments) #ows #nycga
20:12 pm
*yelling* Stairs brings it back:"Side conversations are, by definition, non-participation!" Thanks, @OWSFacilitation #ows #nycga
20:13 pm
Stack: We spend $30k / week just on operations. OccupyOakland is asking for a 1-time $20k donation for an awesome action! #ows #nycga
20:13 pm
Concern: Anthony:"I'm concerned that all we talk about is money! We have way more $ than @OccupyOakland! Let's spend it on something good!"
20:13 pm
Stairs: Stack is now open for friendly amendments. #ows #nycga
20:13 pm
Concern:"I'd like to know how much money we actually have?" Justin from @OWSAccounting PoI's: $347,000! #ows #nycga
20:14 pm
FA: i didnt see any acct for bail, food, & travel. Lets add an extra $10k. OO: We accept. #ows #nycga
20:15 pm
FA: please post your receipts online. OO: We accept. #ows #nycga
20:15 pm
Now Friendly Amendments:"I don't see any allotment for Bail/Travel. Can we add $10,000 for that?" *major uptwinkles* Accepted! #nycga #ows
20:16 pm
FA:Justin:"Since I'm the one who will be getting the receipts,& I soo look forward to giving you guys cash, but can u post receipts online?"
20:16 pm
FA to post receipts online: Accepted! #ows #nycga
20:17 pm
FA: Each occupy site have one specialized fundraising unit to supply funds to all occupations. #ows #nycga
20:18 pm
OO: we think thats a good idea, but that fits outside the scope of this proposal. We dont accept. #ows #nycga
20:19 pm
FA: I would like u guys to raise an addl $20k to match us. #ows #nycga
20:19 pm
Next for FAs:Nan:"My FA is, actually I have 1,Turn the receipts in before you get the cash-2,I believe you guys can raise $20K to match"#ows
20:19 pm
OO: We appreciate that, but $20k is enough for these actions. #ows #nycga
20:20 pm
Proposers:"We can do that! We just raised $7,000 thru a screening of 'V for Vendetta!'" #ows #nycga
20:21 pm
FA: I request each addl working group get an addl $1000. OO: We think we have enough money. We reject. #ows #nycga
20:21 pm
FA:"Can we add $2,000 more for Medical?" Proposers:"We rly appreciate it, but we think $30K is awesome already" #ows #nycga #oo
20:22 pm
Stack: I think adding extra $ on. May be imbalanced. If they asked $20k, lets appreciate their conservative request. #ows #nycga
20:23 pm
Stairs: So early, OO accepted an extra $10K. But they want to ask u if its ok they accept the FA Tempcheck please. #ows #nycga
20:24 pm
(Many uptwinkles to include an addl $10k) #ows #nycga
20:24 pm
(Some downtwinkles) #ows #nycga
20:25 pm
FA:"I love #OO & love that they brought us a well thought-out proposal. Seems like we support it, but we shouldn't be lumping on more $.."
20:25 pm
OO: okay. Lets balance. We will accept only an addl $5,000. We appreciate the extra money. #ows #nycga
20:26 pm
OO: (restating proposal) we request 25,000 for a kick ass action in oakland. #ows #nycga
20:27 pm
Stairs: Tempcheck please (major uptwinkles) any blocks? (One) #ows #nycga
20:28 pm
Block: The extra $5k is an ethical prob for me bc we're not Bank of America. #ows #nycga
20:29 pm
Proposers:"We love you guys! We appreciate it... We could really use that bail #, so we'll meet you halfway at $25K" #ows #nycga #oo
20:29 pm
Restating the proposal:"@OccupyOakland is requesting $25,000 from @OccupyWallStNYC...for a badass action in January." #OWS #NYCGA
20:29 pm
Block: Im concerned we're burning money. That said, i am in solidarity and remove my block (crowd cheers) #ows #nycga
20:30 pm
Stairs: are there any other blocks? (None) #ows #nycga
20:30 pm
Stairs: The proposal passes! (Massive cheers and chants) #ows #nycga
20:32 pm
Major uptwinkles for @OccupyOakland's proposal!!! "Are there any blocks?" (suspense....) #ows #nycga #OO
20:32 pm
When the tweets stop flowing, please click over to @LibertySqGA2, @LibertySqGA3, & @LibertySqGA4 for *moar* #ows #nycga
20:33 pm
Accounting is up next #ows #nycga
20:33 pm
One block. It's Nan. "#OWS is spending money too fast. We're not Bank of America. That said, I remove my block, because I'm in #solidarity!"
20:34 pm
CONSENSUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @OccupyOakland @OccupyWallStNYC #Solidarity #OWS #OO
20:35 pm
Acct: We're concerned about how much $ we will have. We have a responsibility to protect one another. #ows #nycga
20:35 pm
Acct: Ppl give us money bc we do direct action. The money for bail will serve as a safety net. #ows #nycga
20:36 pm
Acct: This money will be used if we need money to get bailed out. Acct: #ows #nycga
20:37 pm
Acct: That said, we are asking for $100K to set aside for bail. It will not be spent on anything. #ows #nycga
20:37 pm
Major cheers at @OccupyOakland's proposal passing #NYCGA!!!! Hella #solidarity from #OWS to #OO!
20:37 pm
Acct: If we decide to us it for something else, we all can make that decision. #ows #nycga
20:38 pm
Now chanting: THE SYSTEM! HAS GOT TO DIE! HELLA HELLA #OCCUPY!" @NYC_GA #OWS #OO #NYCGA
20:38 pm
Acct: Approx $90k has been spent on jail related costs and we've only received a 1/3 back. #ows #nycga
20:38 pm
Now calming down after a few minutes of cheering... Next proposal is from @OWS Accounting - #ows #nycga
20:39 pm
"@OWSAccounting is concerned that we're running out of $! Each of us has a responsibility to each other safe" #ows #nycga
20:39 pm
Diego:"I've been arrested several times! In jail, it was nice knowing that NLG and #OWS had my back" #ows #nycga
20:40 pm
Stack: What is the current limit on bail? Acct: right now, there is none. #ows #nycga
20:41 pm
Stack: How much on bail has been spent since september? Why isnt an action group taking care of this? #ows #nycga
20:44 pm
Acct: on our blog, we have many expenses listed. We're looking to post more shit. If ur into data entry, come join! #ows #nycga
20:44 pm
Acct: As we said earlier, we've spent about $90k on bail related issues. #ows #nycga
20:46 pm
"So we propose $100,000 for an Emergency Bail Reserve" #ows #nycga
20:46 pm
1st on stack for CQ's: "Is this money just for bail?" A: "Yes it is! Should you consider it a FA, we'll talk then." #ows #nycga
20:46 pm
CQ:"What are the stipulations?" A:"Bail is only for an #OWS
20:46 pm
PoI: this is a GA. We're all individuals who can propose things. #ows #nycga
20:47 pm
Razor:"Why is this coming from a finance group, not an action group? Also, there's not transparency&accountability" #ows #nycga
20:47 pm
Stack: Receipts are not transparency. Theres also a bank account thats secret. Accounting isnt being neutral. #ows #nycga
20:47 pm
Stack: We are spending more than we are taking in. #ows #nycga
20:49 pm
PoI: I brought the bank statements last night. They were available. #ows #nycga
20:49 pm
Sparrow: "I'm from DA! A lot of us are here to support this proposal so we can keep doing awesome shit!" #ows #nycga
20:49 pm
(Many side convos erupt. Stairs trying to facilitate. Screaming matches ensue). #ows #nycga
20:50 pm
Stairs: Id like to acknowledge, feelings have been hurt. Please, handle these personal conflicts outside the GA. #ows #nycga
20:51 pm
Stairs: The GA is a decision making body. Lets return to the process. #ows #nycga
20:52 pm
"To keep up strong, we need to keep up the actions! Actions means we'll get arrested, and we'll need bail." #ows #nycga
20:52 pm
@OWSAccounting con'td: "We can only be as transparent as you are. You bring us receipts, we give you cash." #ows #nycga
20:52 pm
(Convo on personal conflicts continue --) #ows #nycga
20:53 pm
Danielle:"We are all #OWS! I didn't join to keep the books! #OccupyWallStreet is an ACTION ORGANIZATION!" #ows #nycga
20:53 pm
Stack: Hi. Arrests have to be for action. Not ppl agitating police for no reason. #ows #nycga
20:54 pm
Stack: ive been locked up, beat up, & fucked up. Although im on bail, what happens with these dats? #ows #nycga
20:55 pm
Legal: a DAT means u must go to court on a certain date. It doesnt cost $. #ows #nycga
20:56 pm
Stairs: Tempcheck for 15m extension (uptwinkles) #ows #nycga
20:58 pm
Legal: you can be charged with anything. Theres a difference bw being accused & charged. #ows #nycga
21:06 pm
Stack: how much $ is in this account? and will it return to the acct? #ows #nycga
21:07 pm
Acct: we have $347K in our account. we have decided when the money comes back, we'll return it to the coffin #ows #nycga
21:08 pm
Stack: How much $ have u spent since September? You're coming to us asking for $100K. Why so much? #ows #nycga
21:09 pm
Legal: There have been 2,000 arrests and a total of $90K have been used. #ows #nycga
21:10 pm
Acct: Not all arrests require bail. The 1st time your arrested, no bail is need. But if u keep getting arrested again...#ows #nycga
21:11 pm
Acct: again and again, you will need bail money. #ows #nycga (stack is now open for concerns) #ows #nycga
21:12 pm
Stack: I'm here everyday. I want to know besides farming, what are we doing about ppl who have no where to go? #ows #nycga
21:12 pm
Stairs: At this time, I feel this isn't a concern relevant to the proposal. Next on stack. #ows #nycga
21:13 pm
Stack: If someone has a prior record that makes the judge set a high bail, lets say 100K, is there a cap? #ows #nycga
21:13 pm
Acct: This proposal isnt about setting standards for bail. that can be left to other groups. this is about money allocation #ows #nycga
21:14 pm
Acct: Also, lets remember they're (NYPD) going to raise bail and charges just to fuck with us. #ows #nycga
21:14 pm
Stack: I heard money will go into two separate accounts that is returned. Which account is it? #ows #nycga
21:15 pm
Acct: Since there is no bail fund yet, the money returned will go to the general fund. #ows #nycga
21:15 pm
Acct: But a friendly amendment can be made to have funds returned to a specific account. #ows #nycga
21:16 pm
Stack: I would be very concerned if this proposal does not pass. Im personally out on bail. This shit saved my ass. #ows #nycga
21:16 pm
Stack: if we dont keep a bail fun, we'll be screwed in the spring. let's keep this movement going & pass this proposal. #ows #nycga
21:17 pm
Stack: My concern is $100K is too less for bail. A friend of mine who was just marching up 7th ave got arrested for a felony #ows #nycga
21:17 pm
Stack:.. and was arrested during a nonviolent action. His bail was set at $25K. Let's raise the amount. #ows #nycga
21:18 pm
If the tweets stop flowing, please click over to @LibertySqGA3 and @LibertySqGA4 for moar! #ows #nycga
21:19 pm
Stack: I'm concerned this money is too much. We owe every occupier in the world, not just here. I dont want finance proposing .. #ows #nycga
21:19 pm
Stack:..this amount. it is too high. #ows #nycga
21:20 pm
PoI: I know that accounting has covered bail for other occupations. But we have no way of anticipating what future bails will be #ows #nycga
21:26 pm
Stack: This proposal is important. Please consider passing it. #ows #nycga
21:28 pm
Stack: If someone is going to get arrested, please make sure it's not for stupidity. #ows #nycga
21:29 pm
21:30 pm
JailSupport: I just want to reiterate there is a huge difference between being charged and convicted. #ows #nycga
21:34 pm
Stack for friendly amendments is now open #ows #nycga
21:35 pm
FA: When we get money back, lets return it to the bail fund. Acct: We accept. #ows #nycga
21:36 pm
FA: I propose you allocate $150k. Acct: We friendly reject. #ows #nycga
21:36 pm
FA: Can the bail fund be used for court costs? #ows #nycga
21:37 pm
Legal: Of 2,000 arrests, only 60% have cases not going to trial. Only some have paid court costs #ows #nycga
21:37 pm
Legal: Add more, and its only a couple thousand. #ows #nycga
21:38 pm
PoI: I believe thats out of scope. This is just for a bail fund. #ows #nycga
21:39 pm
Acct: We accept that FA, but will have legal explain. #ows #nycga
21:39 pm
Legal: Will use bail fund to cover mandatory court costs & related fees. #ows #nycga
21:43 pm
FA: i suggest come tax time, if acct is invaded, we create some safeguards. #ows #nycga
21:43 pm
Acct: we totally appreciate that concern, but we reject. But, please come work with us! #ows #nycga
21:44 pm
FA: Can u subtract a penny? Acct: We accept! #ows #nycga
21:46 pm
FA: place that $ in a credit union. Acct: it is in a credit union. #ows #nycga
21:47 pm
FA: When the $ is withdrawn, please tell GA how much & how many were arrested. #ows #nycga
21:48 pm
Acct: we dont accept but only bc we will do that anyway. That is accountability and transparency. #ows #nycga
21:49 pm
FA: I propose the bail fund be available for other occupations & their bail funds. #ows #nycga
21:50 pm
Stairs: That has already been included in their proposal. #ows #nycga
21:51 pm
Restatement: $100k for bail. Mandatory court costs covered. $ returned goes into account and.. #ows #nycga
21:52 pm
Restatement: ..we remove 1 penny to make it $999,999. #ows #nycga
21:52 pm
Stairs: Are there any blocks? (One block) #ows #nycga
21:53 pm
Block: ive been personally attacked and dont trust whats going on with finance. #ows #nycga
21:55 pm
Stairs: The proposers have chosen not to respond. Do u still block? Blocker: Yes. #ows #nycga
21:55 pm
Stairs: We're now moving to modified consensus. #ows #nycga
21:56 pm
Stairs: Lets obtain everyones attention. Raise ur hand if u do *not* support the proposal. #ows #nycga
21:57 pm
(Counting) #ows #nycga
21:57 pm
Stairs: We have 3 blocks. #ows #nycga
21:58 pm
Stairs: Raise ur hand if youd like the proposal to pass (counting) #ows #nycga
21:59 pm
Stairs: (after 33rd count) Ok. This proposal has passed! (We chant and applaud) #ows #nycga
22:00 pm
Stairs: Ok. The GA is still in session, lets continue moving forward. #ows #nycga
22:02 pm
Yes, one penny was removed. The amount is $99,999.99 Thanks for the correction everyone! :-)
22:02 pm
(Next up is legal) #ows #nycga
22:03 pm
Legal: There was a lawsuit filed on the morning of our raid. That lawsuit is still open. #ows #nycga
22:04 pm
Legal: We ask ows to endorse Adam Levine to represent us for that lawsuit. #ows #nycga
22:06 pm
Legal: We are putting together an affinity group that will decide how this campaign moves forward politically. #ows #nycga
22:06 pm
Legal: We want you to get involved. Email us at owslegal@gmail.com or see us after tonight. #ows #nycga
22:09 pm
Legal: We are asking the GA to authorize Adam Levine to handle the lawsuit. Hes a longtime civil rights attorney. #ows #nycga
22:10 pm
Stack is now open. #ows #nycga
22:11 pm
Stack: i would like to know what problems will u be addressing pre and post eviction #ows #nycga
22:12 pm
Legal: The lawyers are examining details of the case and we want to tell our story that is political in its design. #ows #nycga
22:14 pm
Legal: This lawsuit will also cover collective property taken & how to legally reclaim those items. #ows #nycga
22:14 pm
Stack: Mr. Levine has 50 yrs in law? Amen. #ows #nycga
22:15 pm
Stack: Whats your relationship with the legal working group? #ows #nycga
22:15 pm
Stack: We are the occupy wall street legal working group. #ows #nycga
22:16 pm
Stack: is this for other occupations? Legal: This is NY specific. #ows #nycga
22:20 pm
Stack: If we intend to reoccupy zuccotti, and we sue brookfield, wouldnt this have an adverse effect? #ows #nycga
22:20 pm
(Everyone laughs) Legal: Yeah, our relationship with Brookefield isnt that great in any case. #ows #nycga
22:21 pm
Stack: What is the plan for nationwide litigation? #ows #nycga
22:21 pm
Legal: The lawyers are talking and sharing papers with one another. #ows #nycga
22:22 pm
Stack: How much are we allowed to sue brookfield for? I want to bankrupt those ppl. #ows #nycga
22:23 pm
Legal: I gotcha. But this lawsuit and proposal isnt about suing brookefield. #ows #nycga
22:24 pm
Stack: Journalists approached me & said NYPD were letting ppl out of the tombs (a local detention center). So... #ows #nycga
22:24 pm
Legal: We'll make sure the lawyers are aware. Please email us and work with us. #ows #nycga
22:25 pm
Stack: i say we include journalists also. Legal: Yes, we are. #ows #nycga
22:26 pm
FA: Lets have a call for volunteers. #ows #nycga
22:27 pm
Legal: (restating) We ask Adam Levine to represent ows in this lawsuit and ask for volunteers to help with this effort. #ows #nycga
22:28 pm
Stairs: are there any blocks? (None) Alright! We have reached consensus! #ows #nycga
22:30 pm
Proposal: id like to propose a quorum for GAs. #ows #nycga
22:30 pm
Stack: How was this proposal created? #ows #nycga
22:31 pm
(Fyi- a few police cars have arrived with their lights on, no sirens. Its quite strange) #ows #nycga
22:33 pm
Proposer: As an individual, i am allowed to present a proposal. #ows #nycga
22:34 pm
Stack: So the number u proposed (100) is a little high. #ows #nycga
22:35 pm
Stack: I also agree 100 is also an ambitious number. My FA is to have a facilitator to keel track of the numbers #ows #nycga
22:36 pm
Stack: im also concerned about that number. #ows #nycga
22:37 pm
Stack: im concerned we need to pass this bc the GA numbers have been dwindling. #ows #nycga
22:39 pm
Friendly amendments now. Not accepted. #ows #nycga
22:40 pm
Agreeing to discuss proposal further. Number dropped to 70. Someone asked to wait til there is 70 here to continue. #ows #nycga
22:41 pm
Idea that 70 ppl be here to pass the quorum proposal not accepted by proposer. #ows #nycga
22:42 pm
Someone asks to not make this a binding quorum. #ows #nycga
22:43 pm
Facilitator saying this is starting to fall apart. #ows #nycga
22:45 pm
Nan's friendly amendment: when will the quorum be in affect. Proposer says next year? #ows #nycga
22:46 pm
Stack: i would love for u table this. #ows #nycga
22:50 pm
FA: i really like this idea, but there should be a mechanism to repeal it. Proposer: Lets place a hold on that 1 #ows #nycga
22:51 pm
Stairs: Given some calls for tabling, can i get a tempcheck on tabling? (Uptwinkles) #ows #nycga
22:52 pm
Stairs: Ok. The quorum proposal is tabled. #ows #nycga
22:53 pm
(Moving on to next proposal) #ows #nycga
22:54 pm
Proposal: Occupy Dartmouth is cold and needs one tent. #ows #nycga
22:54 pm
Stairs: clarifying questions? #ows #nycga
22:57 pm
Stairs: are there any blocks? (None) Proposal passes! #ows #nycga
23:02 pm
MedicalResearch: We propose the federal govt spend at least $ on med research as they do on military research #ows #nycga
23:05 pm
Stack: im concerned about the narrow focus of this proposal. I admire it but why only med research? #ows #nycga
23:06 pm
[The GA, as always, isn't into issuing a "demand" as per this proposal. Also, folks are super cold and want him to table.] #nycga #ows
23:07 pm
The proposer is super invested in this idea, citing the large number of untreated mental and physical health problems in the US. #nycga #ows
23:07 pm
Stairs: Ive got 2 on stack for FAs. Lets see how they go. #ows #nycga
23:08 pm
FA: I sympathize but lets incorporate it with wider issues. #ows #nycga
23:09 pm
Stairs: So what im hearing is we incorporate it with healthcare. MedResearch: i accept that. #ows #nycga
23:10 pm
The first FA, before, was essentially to table the proposal until the proposer can share some of his expertise with us. #nycga #ows
23:12 pm
Sully (Stairs) to proposer mid-speech: "I've got to test [for consensus] -- you've no idea. These folks are about to kill me!" #nycga #ows
23:13 pm
Stairs: just to restate, medresearch wants the fed govt to spend $ from mil research to medical research. #ows #nycga
23:13 pm
Stairs: "How do people feel about passing this right now? I'm seeing a lot of downtwinkles; I don't think we have consensus to pass this."
23:14 pm
Stairs: TempCheck on consensus? (Downtwinkles) #ows #nycga Proposal not passed
23:14 pm
Announcements! Cari Machet, Livestream: "Thoren Caristo is not a part of the Media working group of #OWS." All #OWS ties long-cut. #nycga
23:14 pm
Next, @OccupyDC's #OccupyCongress -- get bus tickets, there are 200,000 free tickets from MegaBus apparently. #nycga #ows
23:15 pm
Ted, Light Source: "New Years', there's an open action project;" they're going to occupy the ball drop in a legal manner. #nycga #ows
23:15 pm
Ted notes that because he hasn't gotten that much help, it might not happen, but would be amazing. If you want to help, get at Ted! #nycga
23:16 pm
Announcement: Thorin is not part of the occupy wall street working group. He is an independent. #ows #nycga
23:16 pm
Nick's announcement: "I want to make a demand of the government: tell us the truth about Area 51!" #LULZ #OWS #JOKES
23:17 pm
Announcement: more info on Thorin will be on nycga.net. again, he is not part of ows media. #ows #nycga
23:17 pm
Camille's announcement: "We're going to be playing an awesome board game, Revolution, 1-4 at 60 Wall tomorrow." #nycga #ows
23:17 pm
Cont'd: "It's in beta-testing, but we're going to work out all the kinks tomorrow. Also, we're working on a campaign against NDAA..."
23:18 pm
Cont'd: "We're having an informal conversation [about opposing NDAA] at 5pm tomorrow at 60 wall, and then Sunday again." #nycga #ows
23:19 pm
ThinkTank: We're having a meeting at the manhattan side Staten Island Ferry location tomorrow. Go go nycga.net for info #ows #nycga
23:20 pm
Think Tank says they're having a mobile thinktank prior to the #StatenIslandGA tmrw, 4:30 at the Staten Island Ferry (Manhattan side) #nycga
23:20 pm
Stairs: Are there any more announcements? (None) Okay, im officially declaring this GA over! #ows #nycga
23:20 pm
OK! And that's it! Much love #NYCGA, @jopauca did everything except the last 10 tweets. Show him some love! #OWS #OVERANDOUTCHHHHHT
23:22 pm
Whew! Thanks for staying with us. As always thanks for your support! Stay warm, rest well, and we'll see u tomorrow at Spokes.