00:05 am
RT @alexisgoldstein: @LibertySqGA Here's the statement in solidarity with the Egyptian protestors: http://t.co/nXc56ejq
16:20 pm
RT @heratylaw: Yes, @freecycle rocks - to give AND receive. @northernspyfood: Finally discovered @freecycle. Emptying crap out of baseme ...
16:20 pm
RT @heratylaw: .@freecycle is a network connecting ppl getting rid of useful stuff to ppl who cld use that stuff, all for free, saving i ...
19:23 pm
RT @OccupyNewark: We need (1) 24ft or (2) 14ft 2x4s to connect the top beam of the military tent. If anyone could help out email info@oc ...
20:04 pm
RT @OWScom: Call 855-692-4241 toll-free for real-time voice access to http://t.co/7fsThaPh events schedule and announcements.#OWS
20:05 pm
RT @DaynaR: FYI, GA starts at 8 tonight.
20:05 pm
RT @DaynaR: FYI, GA starts at 8 tonight.
20:05 pm
RT @OWScom: Call 855-692-4241 toll-free for real-time voice access to http://t.co/7fsThaPh events schedule and announcements.#OWS
20:09 pm
Welcome to another GA! Jackson from Occupy Seattle will be helping with facilitation 2night. #nycga #ows
20:11 pm
RT @Dwayne_wins: Not many ppl at GA yet. Started late. We are at 56 Walker Street #ows #nycga
20:12 pm
We begin with meditation. #ows #nycga http://t.co/WeVo5fjr
20:12 pm
RT @Dwayne_wins: In a few moments Im going to go live from #NYCGA the general assembly at 56 Walker St. We are just getting set up. #ows ...
20:15 pm
"This is a chance to bring ourselves together and to reconnect with ourselves, each other, and our purpose." #ows #nycga
20:22 pm
Right now there is a debate on whether or not we should meditate. #ows #nycga
20:23 pm
After much yelling, it seems we will no longer do facilitation so others wont feel marginalized. #ows #nycga
20:24 pm
Stairs is trying to continue... #ows #nycga
20:24 pm
Stairs: 1st proposal is from Occupy Dignity #ows #nycga
20:25 pm
OccDig: Im not feeling safe right now. Can we please have a little more kindness right now? #ows #nycga
20:27 pm
OccDig: 24 hr vigil starting Xmas on the 25th. It will begin at 3pm. #ows #nycga
20:28 pm
OccDig: We ask for $800 for food, $300 for water, $400 for hot drinks, $200 for rain ponchos, & $450 for travel cards #ows #nycga
20:28 pm
Stairs: Stack is now open for clarifying questions. #ows #nycga
20:32 pm
CQ: I love the proposal. Is all this money necessary? A: Well, we dont know how else to go about it. Can u help? #ows #nycga
20:32 pm
CQ: Yes if course, but i will vote yes regardless. #ows #nycga
20:35 pm
CQ: Last night i was uncomfortable bc i found an aryan nation card and you (the proposer) laughed. I dont feel safe around you. #ows #nycga
20:35 pm
A: We all have different sense of humors... (he was cut off) #ows #nycga
20:37 pm
Multiple arguments breaking out. Stairs trying to regain facilitation process. #ows #nycga
20:37 pm
Stairs: I cant make this GA feel safe. Thats up to you guys so please make that possible. #ows #nycga
20:40 pm
CQ: Nan- i lost all respect for u Jason (facilitator). After u laughed about the poster, i think u should apologize. #ows #nycga
20:41 pm
The People's Kitchen's contact information is here: http://t.co/7TgTirvp and @OWS_Kitchen #ows #nycga @blogdiva
20:41 pm
Nan: i dont feel safe with him running the Christmas event. #ows #nycga
20:41 pm
Multiple side conversations are now taking place. #ows #nycga
20:42 pm
Stairs is trying to refocus everyone. #ows #nycga
20:43 pm
More arguments have broken out. Someone mic-checks. "It is not fair to silence anyones voice." #ows #nycga
20:44 pm
"Please stop interrupting people." #ows #nycga
20:45 pm
CQ: why is the food $800? What is in those ingredients? #ows #nycga
20:45 pm
Process is being broken every 5 minutes. #ows #nycga
20:47 pm
Stairs announces stack is closed, yet process continues being disrupted. #ows #nycga
20:50 pm
PoI: Process was created to get through proposals. The same people cannot continue breaking process. #ows #nycga
20:51 pm
Stairs: Are there any concerns? #ows #nycga
20:52 pm
PoI: If you dont feel safe and dont like the xmas proposal, you dont have to be here or participate in the party #ows #nycga
20:52 pm
Concern: We are always on camera. So to hold up a sign like that (aryan sign) is just a bad idea. #ows #nycga
20:54 pm
Stairs: Are there any blocks? #ows #nycga
20:54 pm
(None) Are there any friendly amendments? (One) #ows #nycga
20:55 pm
Stairs: Ok. There are a few. Kyle. Start. #ows #nycga
20:56 pm
Kyle: i offer that this is a holiday get together because not everyone celebrates christmas. #ows #nycga
20:57 pm
Proposer: Yes. although it's on the 25th, it's really to celebrate the 100 days of occupy. #ows #nycga
20:57 pm
(The friendly amendment passes) #ows #nycga
20:58 pm
(Next FA): IM not for or against xmas. But i dont like the way he handled the sign issue last night. I dont want him running it. #ows #nycga
20:59 pm
Stairs: Stack is now closed #ows #nycga
20:59 pm
(Scratch that. 2 more) #ows #nycga
21:00 pm
FA: I propose if u can donate clothes, please bring some. Second, i feel we should all sit down & talk about where we come from #ows #nycga
21:01 pm
(On that Sunday) #ows #nycga
21:01 pm
OccDig restating proposal #ows #nycga
21:02 pm
OccDig: beginning xmas eve at midnight, we'd like to hold a 24 hr vigil to celebrate 100 days of occupying... #ows #nycga
21:02 pm
OccDig: And that we'll accept clothing donations that day #ows #nycga
21:04 pm
Stairs: Okay, are there any blocks? (There are two) #ows #nycga
21:04 pm
Block1: Nan - I want remediation with the proposer. Once thats done, ill withdraw #ows #nycga
21:05 pm
Proposer accepts, block is withdrawn. #ows #nycga (second block is gone as well)
21:06 pm
Stairs: Okay! Proposal for celebrating 100 days of Occupy passes! #ows #nycga
21:07 pm
Now religious discussions are being resumed. Proposer states we honor anyone who wants to celebrate any way they want #ows #nycga
21:07 pm
But that day we're celebrating 100 days of occupy. #ows #nycga
21:09 pm
Stairs: i just want to point out we set aside 20 min yet 45 min passed #ows #nycga
21:10 pm
Next proposal is from labor #ows #nycga
21:12 pm
(Labor is handing out motions on paper) #ows #nycga
21:12 pm
Labor: We need to help the unions who helped us on #d17 #ows #nycga
21:14 pm
Labor: Our motion is to create the largest strike on december 28th #ows #nycga
21:15 pm
Labor: We think it's time to say thanks to 32BJ when they decide to strike in solidarity. #ows #nycga
21:16 pm
Stairs: Stack is now open for clarifying questions #ows #nycga
21:17 pm
Progressive stack in effect #ows #nycga
21:18 pm
CQ: How do u want occupy participate and where? A: Do what uve always done & duarte #ows #nycga
21:19 pm
CQ: is this an illegal march? A: No, we're following our union rules #ows #nycga
21:25 pm
JackRabbit: is this is a proposal that needs to be consensed on? A: yes #ows #nycga
21:25 pm
@YashBoone Why not what?
21:27 pm
Adele: I would like to have more of a plan that can be galvanized instead of some random event #ows #nycga
21:28 pm
Jarrod: Im concerned whether or not this info is correct. Can we please have it verified? #ows #nycga
21:29 pm
Nan: I like marching. Especially against the police, but it seems it's not organized. So how is it organized? #ows #nycga
21:29 pm
@YashBoone From what I understand, a cpl ppl thought it was oppressive. That's all I know.
21:30 pm
Labor: We have shifts beginning at 9 am. Youll see shop stewards & theyll guide u. #ows #nycga
21:31 pm
Anthony: Can u talk with (inaudible) so we can plan and avoid arrests? #ows #nycga
21:31 pm
(Cheers and wooos!) #ows #nycga
21:32 pm
Labor: lets get together after the meeting. #ows #nycga
21:33 pm
(We're now taking a break. Dance party and pizza) #ows #nycga http://t.co/CGgxAeoH
21:47 pm
Accounting: We've been getting receipts where alot of personal expenses were being covered by WGs money. #ows #nycga
21:47 pm
Accounting: So if youre painting all day and get hungry. Put it in your minutes & post it online. #ows #nycga
21:48 pm
Accounting: If u need help with taking minutes, come to us or others and ask them. #ows #nycga
21:49 pm
Accounting: I would love for ows to help me pay for coffee , but i dont know. Im opening this proposal to u #ows #nycga
21:50 pm
Acct: We encourage everyone not to use money for their own personal expenses. #ows #nycga
21:51 pm
Stack: What is not ok? Male says to female lets get some food. U like ows? Ur in ows... #ows #nycga
21:51 pm
Stack: Lets create the Horny & Hungry working group. Now lets do minutes to cover the expenses #ows #nycga
21:52 pm
(People laugh) #ows #nycga
21:53 pm
Accounting: No that cannot happen. Consensus needs to be reached by many in the group. #ows #nycga
21:53 pm
Stack: Can we combine the $100/day? #ows #nycga
21:55 pm
Acct: So, the $100 is not per diem. If u spend $120, youre eating the $20 bucks #ows #nycga
21:56 pm
Acct: This is something that was agreed upon by you guys, the GA #ows #nycga
21:57 pm
Stack (Nan): Our group doesnt work like that. With that, do we still need to create minutes? #ows #nycga
21:58 pm
Acct: Nan, in that situation, consensus upon it, we can work with your group, & upload the minutes #ows #nycga
21:59 pm
Acct: Id also like to add, many of you have asked us for transparency & accountability. We ask the same from your WGs. #ows #nycga
22:01 pm
Acct: We ask you to post them on your working groups nycga.net minutes page #ows #nycga
22:01 pm
Lisa: Do ppl need to say who was at that meeting? #ows #nycga
22:02 pm
Acct: Yes i think so. The best minutes will have who was there. #ows #nycga
22:02 pm
Hero: I think the daily budget goes for that mtg. But other groups run around & we buy stuff on the run #ows #nycga
22:03 pm
Hero: So, what about those circumstances? #ows #nycga
22:04 pm
Hero: When (any WG) is running around, i cant have a meeting, but i have a receipt. What then? #ows #nycga
22:05 pm
Acct: At a weekly meeting, you can discuss these things in advance. #ows #nycga
22:06 pm
Acct: We dont feel it's ethical for us to making monetary decisions for all WGs. Thats why we're bringing it to u guys. #ows #nycga
22:07 pm
Progressive stack is now open for concerns #ows #nycga
22:08 pm
Stack: How do we know how to define items? A: Right now we're talking about food & trying to make it fair, but each WG can.. #ows #nycga
22:08 pm
A: reach consensus on certain things #ows #nycga
22:10 pm
Stairs: Be mindful of how much time we have left. #ows #nycga
22:11 pm
Evelyn: Im with human rights. And i think we should start from somewhere. #ows #nycga
22:12 pm
PoI: U know we have places that serve lunch. lets begin using them for food. #ows #nycga
22:13 pm
Wayne: So, a working group can essentially come together and just arrnge minutes. Essentially, it doesnt change the status quo #ows #nycga
22:15 pm
Jeff: Everytime we come here, we're always talking about money. I mean, ppl are doing serious protesting & getting shot #ows #nycga
22:15 pm
Jeff: So that was my process. #ows #nycga
22:16 pm
Stack: I suggest accounting meet with WGs to create something before we decide. #ows #nycga
22:18 pm
Acct: We didnt want to be gatekeepers. We have open meetings all the time but no one, not even those who argue, comes #ows #nycga
22:20 pm
Ashley: I feel that many of the WGs that will be affected are not present & should be presenr #ows #nycga
22:20 pm
(Present) #ows #nycga
22:22 pm
Stack for friendly amendments now open #ows #nycga
22:24 pm
poI: 855 nycga 411 is the number for info #ows #nycga
22:26 pm
Kyle: I like the proposal bc these funds were designed to be used by the WG for the WG. So lets mandate a wkly mtg #ows #nycga
22:27 pm
Stack: Id like to make an FA where Accting makes an FAQ with best practices (accepted) #ows #nycga
22:27 pm
Stack: I suggest after one week of this proposal, extra money be sent to those fighting in Egypt #ows #nycga
22:28 pm
Acct: Unfortunately, thats a separate proposal and not an amendment to ours. #ows #nycga
22:29 pm
Stack: Many dont have access to computers. Why not create a kickstarter? #ows #nycga
22:29 pm
Stairs: we have a PoI and technically, that wasnt friendly amendment. #ows #nycga
22:31 pm
Stack: We should not be allowing any food expenditures. #ows #nycga
22:32 pm
PoI: Multiple WG members are homeless. I think there isnt adequate time for discussions on mtgs. #ows #nycga
22:33 pm
Acct: Back to the friendly amendment on food receipts, we'll redact that. We'll leave the decision to WGs on what they consensus on #nycga
22:34 pm
Acct: We're a fking movement to change the world. Practice high ethical standards. #ows #nycga
22:35 pm
(Acct now restating proposal) We want WGs to create minutes for items they purchase and we'll post FAQs #ows #nycga
22:35 pm
Stairs: Are there any blocks? (There are five) #ows #nycga
22:36 pm
Acct: Okay. If u are blocking, make sure it's not anything personal and practice some personal reponsibility #ows #nycga
22:36 pm
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22:37 pm
Block1: Many in my WG are homeless.im blocking on behalf of them. #ows #nycga
22:37 pm
Block1: also, many WG are not here to say anything #ows #nycga
22:38 pm
Acct: We just passed $10K budget for kitchen to supply food. They can go there. Food is there #ows #nycga
22:39 pm
Block2: My friend just passed something in our group, but shes still in the process for covering expenses... #ows #nycga
22:40 pm
Block2:..and i feel her process will be disupted by this new proposal #ows #nycga (people seem confused)
22:41 pm
Hero: what does everyone think about facilitation? Can we do a tempcheck for switching out(uptwinkles) #ows #nycga
22:41 pm
(Hero is now facilitating) #ows #nycga
22:42 pm
Stairs: A block is suppose to be for ethical concerns and these blocks are not ethical #ows #nycga
22:43 pm
Many arguments have broken out #ows #nycga
22:43 pm
Stairs: We have 30 seconds for the next block. There is another mtg scheduled and we dont want to cut into their time #ows #nycga
22:44 pm
More arguments have erupted #ows #nycga
22:45 pm
Stairs: please, lets listen to nans block #ows #nycga
22:45 pm
Nan: Diego... if u give me a hug, ill lift my block #ows #nycga
22:45 pm
(Nan and diego embrace, everyone laughs and claps) #ows #nycga
22:46 pm
Stairs: So there are 4 more blocks, lets try to finish #ows #nycga
22:47 pm
Stack: if we're putting up the same social constructs we're against, then wtf are we doing. Minutes for food? #ows #nycga
22:48 pm
Stack: Not everyone is as strong as you guys. some of us are sick #ows #nycga
22:48 pm
(Man and woman interrupt) you dont even understand the proposal lady #ows #nycga
22:49 pm
Stairs regains control: Okay. Respect please. #ows #nycga
22:49 pm
(We're now moving to modified consensus) #ows #nycga
22:51 pm
Stairs: ok, after taking a count, the proposal has passed with over 90% consensus #ows #nycga
22:56 pm
That's it for tonight's GA! Thanks for sticking with us! TechOps is next & are showcasing their new system... #ows #nycga
22:58 pm
...if u want to learn more, stick around for the extra coverage right here. Thanks again <3 @jopauca
23:05 pm
RT @OWS_Tech: Here comes the #TechOps mock #GeneralAssembly, complete with lots of Tech Toys. For a play-by-play, follow @LibertySqGA
23:06 pm
This is the display for the new system currently being showcased by TechOps http://t.co/wKrSmctR
23:07 pm
This is also the other part of the design http://t.co/G13qeJ3P
23:07 pm
TechOps: Our system is not to replace process, but to help process.
23:08 pm
TechOps: This system is used by many public institutions and we believe it will help immensely
23:09 pm
Right now, remote controls are being handed out to help voting.
23:10 pm
This is the device we're currently testing. http://t.co/vhE9qyk0
23:12 pm
TechOps: So, lets begin with a test. This is a test. http://t.co/pkLj5O7f
23:13 pm
@OWS_Tech u got it!
23:15 pm
Please show some follow love to @OWS_Tech team who have helped develop the system currently being showcased. #techops
23:17 pm
#TechOps: We are open source whores. That means we love software that is free! #TechOps
23:18 pm
#TechOps: when i go to sleep, all i think of is how to develop something for the GA.
23:20 pm
#TechOps: By pressing the 1/10 button, the system automatically and anonymously logs you in. http://t.co/E3ju4tGe
23:21 pm
#TechOps: You'll be able to see all the votes youve ever made.
23:23 pm
#TechOps: Now we hear about hacked votes, so lets talk about concerns
23:23 pm
#TechOps: so lets get into electronic voting -- tho i hate that word, its what we're essentially doing at the GA
23:24 pm
#TechOps: Now there is a concern. What prevents someone from voting 3, 4, or 5 times. Right now there isnt but we're working on it.
23:25 pm
#TechOps: Still, lets look at this technology's potential. Eventually, these bugs will be ironed out
23:26 pm
#TechOps: You can press 1 to get into stack, 2 for blocks, 3 for FA's.
23:26 pm
(Btw, if i land in twitter jail, head over to @libertysqga2)
23:27 pm
#TechOps so how can the system be gamed? Well, it's an honor system. So lets vote with the remote..
23:28 pm
#TechOps: 1 is not important, 3 neutal , 5 critically important. (Voting taking place- 24 so far)
23:28 pm
#TechOps: oh. Clarification. The remote will only count one vote per remote.
23:29 pm
#TechOps: and these are the results of the votes we just took! (Do check out this photo) http://t.co/vfp9DcmC
23:32 pm
We just voted on "how important is electronic voting?" Check out the results http://t.co/UrjvwAWN
23:36 pm
On the fly question: how happy are u with spokes? #TechOps
23:38 pm
And these are the results where 1 is unhappy and 5 is very happy. #TechOps http://t.co/FKgmTZDK
23:40 pm
#TechOps: In the future, we also plan to incorporate motion and animations.
23:42 pm
#TechOps: can this do progressive stack? You better believe this can.
23:44 pm
#TechOps: Now, on this computer you see time. Just as we allocate 15 min for proposals, this screen will help us keep track of time.
23:44 pm
(This is the screen displaying the time limits) #TechOps http://t.co/BbS2YxWr
23:46 pm
And this device will help with texting. #TechOps http://t.co/XkYRVhPM
23:51 pm
#TechOps: so lets imagine we're returning from breakout groups. we can text this info into our database and do much w/ this data!
23:53 pm
#TechOps: so lets take a vote on how important are price vs features and US vs China
23:54 pm
Here is the question on the ppt #TechOps http://t.co/GOXqXjXM
23:55 pm
And here are the results! #TechOps http://t.co/NN8C6kcy
23:55 pm
#TechOps: So that's it folks! Thanks again (met with applause)
23:59 pm
Thanks again for staying with us. If you'd like to contact #TechOps reach them at tech.nycga.net or email at tech@nycga.net. Rest well