09:36 am
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22:08 pm
Block 2 cont'd: "And also, the entire filing was out of process, as per a proposal that Legal put fwd a week before that." #nycga #ows
22:08 pm
A: "To respond briefly: the filing was out of process. That's why we're here now, why he met w/ them last Sunday," made effort since filing.
22:09 pm
Suzanne's block: "The use of the word emergency doesn't justify the abuse of process." #nycga #ows
22:10 pm
Sam answers that this is among many emergencies he deals with, including arrests. Suzanne says it's about making a decision for whole mvmnt.
22:11 pm
Someone asks why folks who actually made the decision aren't up there defending it. "Why are you acting as their lawyer?" #nycga #ows
22:11 pm
Next block: "We can't authorize funds retroactively." A: "Why not?" #nycga #ows
22:12 pm
2 PoIs: "The action was taken on good faith. Pt 2: If he doesn't get authorization tonight, the application will be withdrawn." #nycga #ows
22:12 pm
?: "I have attended GAs where someone who paid for handtrucks OOP was reimbursed retroactively." Also, at GA 1.5 wks ago, GA authorized...
22:13 pm
cont'd: "...to spend $8,000 to buy Internet Domain names to protect occupy wall street and way name is used." #nycga #ows
22:13 pm
Another PoI: "The decisions that were just referred to were brought forward as proposals by a wrking group. Hello- I don't see a WG up here"
22:14 pm
Sam: "I have been the one up here talking on this Finance WG proposal b/c I know more about trademarks, explaining, than finance folks."
22:14 pm
Sam cont'd: "Pete from Finance has been here, as has Aaron from DA." Suzanne: "I'm from DA, and we did not discuss or consense on this."
22:15 pm
Pete and Aaron join Sam up front. Aaron assures Suzanne (sp?) that he's clarify. Stairs asks us to take a moment, thanks us. #nycga #ows
22:15 pm
Stairs: "We've had a couple long proposals, but these are all very important decisions, and we're giving them weight they deserve."
22:16 pm
PoI: "It's my understanding that anyone can bring a proposal to the GA." Ooh boy, another block. #nycga #ows
22:16 pm
Block #?: "Before any decision is made they should get our consent first and did not do so." Feels disrespected as occupier, in GA. #nycga
22:17 pm
Block cont'd: "I'm sorry, Sam. I like you as a person and as a lawyer, but there are some things I have to do." #nycga #ows
22:17 pm
Aaron: "I heard that ppl were trying to take the trademark. I went to Legal; I could not find anybody. Somebody gave me Sam/Wiley's #."
22:18 pm
Aaaron: "I passed it out in the media tent to a bunch of ppl; they called. I'm part of Media; I've worked with DA as well, but..." #nycga
22:18 pm
Aaron cont'd: "...I did not represent direct action when I made that call. I did that as a protester here at OWS. Had nothing to do w/ GA."
22:18 pm
Aaron: "I think some ppl assume that bc I have done things w/ DA in past, it was a DA thing. But I also work w/ Media, and as individual."
22:19 pm
PoI: "I'm a member of Media; I attend most, if not all meetings, I was never aware of this at any Media meetings." #nycga #ows
22:20 pm
Pete's PoI: "It is my understanding that the WGs are empowered to make some autonomous decisions. That we have a trust w/ other WGs, GA."
22:20 pm
Pete cont'd: "As the Finance WG, we consensed that this was an important thing that related to our fiduciary responsibility to #OWS."
22:20 pm
Pete cont'd: "We could not find legal, which is why we turned to Sam and Wiley. And, this was a very time-sensitive matter." #nycga #ows
22:21 pm
PoI: "It is a fact that if this filing is not made, someone else will make it. And they will sue us if we use the #OWS name." #nycga #ows
22:22 pm
PoP: "That's not exactly a PoI; it's very steeped in potential. And it's not a fact." Sam agrees. Next Block agrees with concerns...
22:22 pm
...about the use of so-called emergencies to allocate funds. "It concerns me b/c it's abused, looks like to me." Withdraws block. #nycga #os
22:23 pm
First, a PoI: "Emergencies are subjective. There is a fact: had this been filed 3.5 hours later, different owners of this mark would exist."
22:24 pm
Next B: "Everybody knows Marlena. She's a phone call away. It was us who had to actually contact you to be part of the process." #nycga #ows
22:25 pm
Block: "There's a couple points I want to make. 1, didn't know, so couldn't have been consensus in Finance (Pete says he wasn't in at time.)
22:26 pm
Block cont'd has to do w/ Friends of Liberty Plaza. Sam notes this isn't involved in this proposal. #nycga #ows
22:26 pm
Stairs: "I'd like to remind all of us that we're talking about the reimbursement of the money already spent, right now." #nycga #ows
22:27 pm
Block: "While I agree w/ the trademarking, this is supposed to be a leaderless movement." Interrupted by emergency announcement. #nycga #ows
22:28 pm
Emergency announcement: "Friend arrested while they were marching; consensed on marching to 7th Precinct to support." #nycga #ows
22:29 pm
Block again: "My issue is the fact this was made not by a group but by an individual person." Agree w/ TM filing. Withdraw block #nycga #ows
22:29 pm
So basically that was the second time someone fake-blocked just to get to speak at this point. Bad behavior kids! #nycga #ows
22:31 pm
Someone pointed that out. Stairs. "When you block, you are looking for some resolution/statement to make you feel better." #nycga #ows
22:32 pm
PoP, one of the bad blockers. "Stack was closed, there's a process for making an emergency proposal." Huh? #nycga #ows
22:33 pm
Emergency proposal was, if you want to, leave and support march to protest arrest of 5 ppl. Stairs: "I believe we've heard all blocks."
22:35 pm
Stairs re-counts the blocks -- there are 6. We're going to go forward w/ a try for 9/10ths modified consensus. #nycga #ows
22:42 pm
Counted 14 against. Now we're counting EVERYONE here. Not sure of the math on this, I guess standasides count in consensus. #nycga #ows
22:42 pm
OK, so the first part of the proposal was not approved. That means Sam, Wiley will not be paid back $1300 they placed for TM filing. #nycga
22:43 pm
PoP: "It was my understanding was that if the number of blocks was over 10%, not ppl against proposal." Can be against, let pass. #nycga
22:44 pm
PoP/PoI: "In the 1st wk, the GA came to consensus that if there were blocks- any #- we'd then move to a vote, proposal would pass if 90%"
22:45 pm
Stairs: "As a facilitator, it's my understanding that when we move to a modified consensus, people can show not in favor even if not blocks"
22:45 pm
Stairs takes temp check on that; saw almost all twinkle up, some down. PoP: "My understanding: not people not in favor counted, # of blocks"
22:46 pm
Sam: "W/ the permission of the grp, I'd like to withdraw this proposal in entirety this evening, go home w/ wife, go to bed." #nycga #ows
22:47 pm
Sam: "We may propose it in the future, if that's OK." Apologizes "for wasting so much of your time," thanks for our attention. #nycga #ows
22:47 pm
Stairs: "I don't think it's a waste of time; we've had a great discussion here." Stairs notes there's a bunch of PoPs and PoIs. #nycga #ows
22:48 pm
PoP: "I guess this is a CQ; my bad. But if you leave now, what happens to the filing? Does it get withdrawn?" A: Not for now #nycga #ows
22:49 pm
PoP: "Then my PoP is that we're about to decide whether or not to block you making that decision." A: Have 3-4 mnths til action needs taking
22:49 pm
Sam additionally notes: "I also feel many people in favor of proposal have left, since it's now 11, Friday, and a march went by." #nycga
22:50 pm
Someone: Thanks, Sam, for going thru process. That's the point of all of this. But- done immense process, moment it looks to fail, leaving."
22:51 pm
Asks him to stay and accept ruling, wants him to abandon process. Sam responds: "There's nothing that says a proposal cant be brought again"
22:52 pm
Stairs: "I'm hearing that some ppl are OK w/ some of the proposal being withdrawn, not others... down-twinkles, am I wrong?"
22:53 pm
Two PoPs, both the same: "A proposer can table a proposal at any time." Stairs: "it's been withdrawn, but we may see it later." #nycga #ows
22:53 pm
A PoP suggests finance should defend the proposal next time. Stairs: "Well, this is over for now." #nycga #ows
22:54 pm
Stairs: "We allocated 30 minutes for this!" Lulz. "We're only off by 2 hours!" haahahah.#nycga #ows
22:54 pm
2 more proposals, both budget. Groups "have option of tabling til tomorrow, will be first on agenda for tomorrow." #nycga #ows
22:55 pm
Next proposer!! WOO. "Hi, I'm Mark! Long night. I hope this will be a fun proposal that everyone likes." #nycga #ows
22:56 pm
Mark from Labor: "Proposal has changed slightly from the website- asking for less money." It's to support 11/17 day of action. #nycga #ows
22:56 pm
Mark: "The specific portion of that action that needs support is the reclaiming of the bridge for the 99%"- the Brooklyn Bridge! #nycga #ows
22:57 pm
Mark: "It will also serve as the 2-month birthday party for OWS!" Will entail massive spectacle of light, projections on walkways of BBridge
22:57 pm
Mark: We want to fill walkway with people holding light; in-crowd projection team will project batsignal-like image reading "We are the 99%"
22:58 pm
Mark: 10,000 LEDs already purchased by Labor! They want us to fund 3 deep-cell-marine batteries, 2 power inverters required to run projs.
22:58 pm
Mark: "At end of action, all equipment will be donated to sustainability WG." They need it, and it's compatible w/ their setup. #nycga #ows
22:59 pm
Mark: "We're also requesting $750 to hire a boat for the evening for photographic and video documentation." #nycga #imonaboat
22:59 pm
They also want material to make walkway feel like a birthday party. $600=inverters, will come back to #OWS. $600=batteries, same fate.
23:00 pm
Charter boat: $750, transportation $150, staff for one projector, $100, decorations, $250. "That's my proposal." #nycga #ows
23:00 pm
PoP: "For GA meetings, we give allotted times for proposals. We vote on those times; once we pass that point, we consense on continuing."
23:01 pm
PoP cont'd: "I suggest we implement this, hasn't been done tonight." Stairs proposes 10 minutes- we're cool w/ it. #nycga #ows
23:02 pm
CQ: "Do we need that much money? For me, I see a waste of money, when we can use that money to do something that's way better." #nycga #ows
23:02 pm
A: "I believe that massive spectacle and art project an image of Occupy Wall Street to the world that encourages and inspires more ppl..."
23:03 pm
A cont'd: "...to become involved." Stairs PoPs: "Although there was a Q at beginning, was mostly a concern. Please wait for concerns stack."
23:04 pm
Q: "Did Labor Outreach do fundraising for this before coming to the GA?" A: "UNITE New York already gave us $7,000; constitutes that."#nycga
23:04 pm
Q: "You said we'd need to purchase 10,000 LED lights. Right?" A: "No, unions bought that." #nycga #ows
23:05 pm
Q, same person: "How much are you asking?" A: "$2,450." Stairs closes questions, moving to concerns. #nycga #ows
23:05 pm
C: "I believe party atmosphere could potentially take away from DA, and more of a serious mindset." #nycga #ows
23:06 pm
PoI: "There are many direct actions scheduled for that day. I feel the party atmosphere at birthplace of OWS may be an appropriate..."#nycga
23:07 pm
FA: "The $150 for transportation- we can't transport some other way?" PoP: "That's a question; amendment would be an alt suggestion." #nycga
23:08 pm
Stairs calls again for friendly amendments. "It seems like there aren't any." Oh, wait: "I think there should be some sort of batsignal."
23:08 pm
Everyone laughs. Are you cool w/ that?, Stairs asks. "Yes," laughing. "It won't be a literal batsignal, it'll be a giant projection of 99%."
23:09 pm
Proposal restated: $2,400. Temp check: "That looks mostly good!" Now we'd like to ask if there are any blocks. #nycga #ows
23:09 pm
One of the grillers is blocking. Stairs: "Let's keep in mind, a block means there is a moral, ethical or safety concern w/ the proposal."
23:10 pm
Block: "My block is that we could use that money wisely by using it on something important and not wasting it the wayt they want."#nycga
23:11 pm
A: "I ran this through some ppl in finance; they thought it was a good idea." PoP: "That B snds like a stment of preference, not principle."
23:12 pm
Stairs is moving ahead w/ 9/10ths consensus. Asking for ppl opposed to proposal. Stairs: "Because this block has chosen to hold..."
23:13 pm
Stairs: "...we're just counting the blocks now, not voicing all of them. B/c this one can't be resolved." #nycga #ows
23:13 pm
PoP: "I don't think facilitation can say somebody cannot voice their block. That may influence other ppl to agree/disagree." #nycga
23:14 pm
Stairs: "Great point; I appreciate it and apologize." Other stairs: "I proposed to move fwd w/ modified consensus. Thought we had consent."
23:14 pm
Stairs cont'd: "If we did, I don't think it's appropriate to go back to blocks." Vote shows disapproval in different form. #nycga #ows
23:15 pm
Stairs: "Also, it's been 10 mins. Do we want to talk about this more?" Looks, "I'm seeing all twinkles up except one." #nycga #ows
23:15 pm
Stairs: "So, I'd like to move fwd w/ modified consensus. If you don't approve, hold your hands high." #nycga #ows
23:16 pm
There are 4 against. Counting all here again. 60-something, so we've "reached modified consensus." #nycga #ows
23:17 pm
Next proposal. "The proposals are requesting a temp check on whether to hear it tonight." Q: Is it timesensitive? A: "nt technically" #nycga
23:18 pm
So, it's not time-sensitive. Temp check: We all want to go home! Proposers very graciously yielding, will be 1st tmrw. #nycga #ows
23:18 pm
OK! Working group reportbacks. "Are there any WG reportbacks? And if so, we beg you to keep it to a minute." #nycga #ows
23:19 pm
DA: "Direct Action is hosting a meeting tomorrow at 60 wall, from 2-6, to discuss theory, praxis, DA's place in movement. Pls come!"#nycga
23:20 pm
Kitchen: "Hi GA! We, the Kitchen, need volunteers to cook in kitchen in Brooklyn." M-F, 2-5pm. "Please let me know!" Cook 1nce a wk. #nycga
23:22 pm
OK, annncements now. First: "formation of a group." called anti-human trafficking, drug-trafficking/abuse, intellectual violence, & slavery
23:22 pm
2nd grp: "Religious Life Support Assistance Local and Global." Designed for any religious person of any affilitation here in park. #nycga
23:24 pm
Next: "Right now, in my hometown of Salt Lake City, they're being cleared out of their occupation." 20 arrests, use of bulldozers. #nycga
23:24 pm
Cont'd: "They've been occupying since 10/6, and have had a hard time. Have maintained joy and resolve, set good example." #nycga #ows
23:25 pm
He's recording himself saying this "so we can show them that #OWS considers themselves as 1 w/ @OccupySLC. Pls sparkle if you agree. #nycga
23:25 pm
Lots of cheers for Occupy Salt Lake City!! #nycga #ows
23:25 pm
Next: "Occupy Rochester was granted the right to occupy Washington Square Park in Rochester on 11/10!" Woooo. #nycga #ows
23:26 pm
Abe: "A few days ago, Movement Building passed a proposal for $29,000 to send 20 ppl to Egypt for a purpose that is slightly unclear."#nycga
23:26 pm
Abe cont'd: "I'm going to try to get on the agenda for tomorrow to try to repeat this proposal," since not that many ppl at GA, largest $.
23:27 pm
Jessica: "I do support w/ Community Watch and Community Alliance at Zuccotti Park." Nd ppl sign up for shifts "to help be eyes/ears in LP."
23:28 pm
"This is very important, obviously." She's giving us a phone #, but y'all can come down and talk to Info if you want to help! #nycga #ows
23:29 pm
"There's no a lot of place to walk. Sometimes ppl get sensitive about putting heads in corners of tents, getting stepped on. Oops!"
23:29 pm
Stairs: "It looks like there's no one, so I'm going to close stack for announcements." 1 more. #nycga #ows
23:30 pm
"Let's think about neighborhoods. Let's bring beauty from inside outside." Talk to neighbors, try to find local consensus. #nycga #ows
23:31 pm
Also, SIS needs volunteers, many others as well. "Specifically right now, look at all these beautiful leaves!" Needs hrs of work to press.
23:33 pm
After leaves pressed they'll be stamped and sent to donors. Not sure what stamp will say yet, maybe "here's a lil piece of American autumn."
23:33 pm
Rocky's A: "I have a power source you can buy at Home Depot for $99," can run radiator, etc. Suggesting ppl get them for tents. #nycga #ows
23:33 pm
We all thank Rocky for the tip. Last A: "I just came from McD's; someone felt need to graffiti." Getting fed up w/ us. #nycga
23:34 pm
Stairs: "We've come to the end of everything on schedule- if you've stuck it out, be real proud of yrselves!" #nycga #ows
23:35 pm
Stairs: "On behalf of facilitation team, we want to thank you, ask you to join facilitation! Doesn't this look like fun?" #nycga #ows
23:35 pm
Facilitation meets daily at 4pm at 60 Wall; intro to direct democracy at 5:30. #nycgga #ows
23:36 pm
Stairs: "Thank you!" And that's it for GA! Thanks fam. Hit me up at @diceytroop for the post-GA talk show or something. #nycga #ows